"Well, he's the type that seem like he don't worry. But I guess it's better to be that way. Because he tells me I'm just wasting . . . like rockin' and rockin' in a rocking chair. It don't get you any place. So he's the type that really, you know. I think that's good for me. Because if he was the type that was hyper or something, maybe . . . but he was encouragement to me."