"This woman in South Dakota had a tumor about the size of a grapefruit, and the doctors, the modern day doctors wouldn't go in and take that out because it was too large. So she went to Godphrey, and Godphrey in his own Indian way shrunk that, that tumor to about the size of a walnut, then she went back to the doctor and they took it out. So they went . . . these doctors tried to get Godphrey to tell them how he did that, but he couldn't, if he did, well he couldn't help anyone else because he'd lose his powers if he did that."